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Post by _ys_ on Mar 23, 2006 17:32:32 GMT
I know that all Equip cards target. That's easy. But what about individual effects.
Any hard and fast rule to identify these? Is it all in the wording? Pointers appreciated.
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Post by The Almighty Smiter on Mar 23, 2006 19:49:05 GMT
Most of it is in the wording mate, as usual though there may be some cards with weird rulings.
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Post by _ys_ on Mar 23, 2006 22:45:41 GMT
Any examples of such wording ...
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Post by The Almighty Smiter on Mar 23, 2006 23:03:36 GMT
wording that does target or wording that doesn't???, heres both -
Smashing Ground
Group: Spell Card
Type: Spell
Destroy 1 Monster with the highest DEF on your opponent's side of the field.
(obviously targets)
Enemy Controller
Group: Spell Card
Type: Spell
Icon:Quick-Play
Select and activate 1 of the following effects: - Change the Battle Position of 1 face-up monster on your opponent's side of the field. - Offer 1 monster on your side of the field as a Tribute. Select 1 face-up monster on your opponent's side of the field. Take control of the selected card until the End Phase of the turn this card is activated.
(Although the 2nd effect does target a monster on your opponents side of the field it also effects a 2nd monster (yours) so it doesn't target)
Basically a spell/trap that only effects one monster targets, if it effects multiple monsters it does not target.
Any better???
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Post by Bood on Mar 24, 2006 9:03:38 GMT
wording that does target or wording that doesn't???, heres both - Smashing Ground Group: Spell Card Type: Spell Destroy 1 Monster with the highest DEF on your opponent's side of the field. (obviously targets) Enemy Controller Group: Spell Card Type: Spell Icon:Quick-Play Select and activate 1 of the following effects: - Change the Battle Position of 1 face-up monster on your opponent's side of the field. - Offer 1 monster on your side of the field as a Tribute. Select 1 face-up monster on your opponent's side of the field. Take control of the selected card until the End Phase of the turn this card is activated. (Although the 2nd effect does target a monster on your opponents side of the field it also effects a 2nd monster (yours) so it doesn't target) Basically a spell/trap that only effects one monster targets, if it effects multiple monsters it does not target. Any better??? Smashing doesnt target... [Re: Lord of D.] "Lord of D." will NOT stop "Dark Hole", "Mirror Force", "Raigeki", "Fissure", "Smashing Ground", "Hammer Shot", or "Amazoness Archers", nor will he protect your Dragon-Type monsters from their effects, since these cards affect the whole field and do not select targets.  ;D yusuf, the way I see it, if the card targets one specific card, ie sak, cylinder (the attacking monster), then it targets, whereas if it has to search the field for its target, (smashing, Fissure, Widespread ruin), then it does not target. Creature Swap does not target as the oppo has the choice of targets,. |
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Post by The Almighty Smiter on Mar 24, 2006 9:06:14 GMT
well slap my testicles and call me a wet haddock, you live and you learn.
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Post by Bood on Mar 24, 2006 9:07:34 GMT
slap, slap *delecate pinch*. Smitey you wet haddock you, lol
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Post by The Almighty Smiter on Mar 24, 2006 9:09:03 GMT
LMAO, always thought smashing targetted, MEH no biggy, ITS MY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by _ys_ on Mar 24, 2006 9:45:26 GMT
Thanks guys.
Now all I have to work out is the difference between activation and resolution lol. Still confused over when to apply an effect. e.g. Smashing Ground. Is it the highest DEF at activation or resolution? If I can get this sorted, I'll be ready to duel lmao
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Post by Bood on Mar 24, 2006 10:03:23 GMT
at that point in the chain, par example.. player 1 activates smashing ground, player 2 flips magical dimension, destroying their mon on the field and the opps monster and summoning a mon of their own, then as the chain goes backwards, smashing effect takes into effect, destroying the NOW highest def on oppos side of the field.
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Post by _ys_ on Mar 24, 2006 11:38:21 GMT
So Smashing's effect is at point of resolution, but in general I'm just confused.
Hmmm e.g. Mobious. Does the player choose two spell/trap cards when they activate or resolve the effect? MST?.
I just find it hard in general to know when to apply effects. At activation of resolution. I guess I'll learn from experience. The more you duel the more you get the feel for it.
Ok ... from this thread I'm seeing a pattern:
If it targets it's at point of activation. If it doesn't target it's at point of resolution.
Is this a fair enough general assumption?
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Post by Bood on Mar 24, 2006 11:42:00 GMT
Rulings
You select the Spell / Trap Cards when you activate the effect of "Mobius the Frost Monarch".
This effect targets.
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Post by _ys_ on Mar 24, 2006 11:43:38 GMT
So my general assumption holds true. I think I'm getting there.
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Post by The Almighty Smiter on Mar 24, 2006 17:43:56 GMT
basically with the summoning of mobius you activate the effect when he's summoned but the cards are removed from the field on resolution hence you can bth mobius but he can still destroy cards on the field before being removed.
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Post by _ys_ on Mar 26, 2006 19:57:12 GMT
... hence you can bth mobius but he can still destroy cards on the field before being removed. Being the turn player has its perks  |
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