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Post by solemnwishes on Jun 30, 2005 8:54:10 GMT
Hi, I play my son a lot and wondered what you thought about the deck I use, 58 cards seem a lot to me and I would like to cut back a bit but they all do well for me.
Here they are:
Ritual Cards:
Dark Magic Ritual Black luster soldier Black luster ritual Javelin Beetle Javelin beetle pact Magician of black chaos Novox's Prayer Skull Guardian
Trap Cards:
Solemn wishes Torrential tribute Negate attack Tornado wall Numinous healer Anti Rageki White hole Magic jammer Magic cylinder Shadow spell Call of the haunted
Magic/spell cards:
Change of heart Goblins secret remedy Raigeki monster reborn United we stand Ookazi 2 x Dian Keto the cure master 3 x Axe of despair Card destruction Graceful charity Swords of revealing light polymerization Red medicine
Monsters:
Red Eyes B. Dragon Leogun Copycat Meteor dragon battle ox Beta the Magnet warrior Gamma the magnet warrior Alpha the magnet warrior Dark magician Trap master Summoned skull Valkyrion the magna warrior Gazelle the king of mythical beasts 3 x Great white 2 x Crazy fish 2 x Giant rat Giant soldier of stone
Fusion:
B. Skull Dragon Meteor B. dragon
A lot of cards yes, and a few of the lower level monsters could be replaced. I just don't want any changes to have a negative effect on the deck. All 58 cards compliment each other ( I think).
What do you think?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Ade.
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Post by The Almighty Smiter on Jun 30, 2005 9:56:18 GMT
You've got quite alot of traps in there, you really want to cut it down to about 4 or 5, try to get a ring of destruction and mirror force in there (you can never go wrong with them). Possibly replace some of the lower powered ones with MOF or as you are not playing a tourny legal deck, use WOTB aswell. Thats my humble opinion anyway, its nice to see some one using a different deck.
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Post by The Almighty Smiter on Jun 30, 2005 10:07:09 GMT
jusr realised you play with you son so you may not know what cards I mean MOF = magician of faith (allows you to return a spell card to your hand from your grave yard, WOTBF = Witch of the black forest, add a monster with a defense of 1500 or less to you hand. Cut the number of monsters down to about 17 and the speall and trap to about 23 (4 or 5 trap the rest magic), try not to go over 40 cards, if you do try not to go over to much, this way you will pull the cards you need quicker.
if your only playing for fun try using cards with coin tosses so its more a game of chance.
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Post by RedCap on Jun 30, 2005 10:19:46 GMT
my advice, cut out the Red medicine as its just not worth it, i'd say cut out on most of the rituals unless your definatly set on using them also if you wanted to make a tournament legal deck, you would have to take out all the japanese and banned cards if you wanted to play in your tournamet
i also agree with monkyspanker about the mof
sorry if it seems harsh, it just depends wheather you want to play competetively
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Post by Topman_2005 on Jun 30, 2005 11:05:53 GMT
Just a small problem guys, if your advising him to take out banned cards, tell him to use SANGAN, not WOTBF... rofl
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Post by The Almighty Smiter on Jun 30, 2005 11:56:47 GMT
Were advising both ways, if your playing with ban cards then put them in, if you not playing with ban cards you may aswell start again cos half of the deck is illegal!!!
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Post by solemnwishes on Jun 30, 2005 12:31:20 GMT
Half of the deck is illegal?
That's great! No need for my son to know then lol.
I have no japanese txt cards in the deck, unless you mean cards that are only on release in Japan?
Could you possibly send me the link to a banned list please? Least then I can replace my illegal cards.
I've got a few Sangans so no problems with that ( thank you for that last reply!).
I like the ritual cards yes, the reason I have 4 sets is that every now and again I can RS one of them and offer either JB, BS,MODC or SG instead of using monsters already set on the field.
Which has just made me think, I can do that can't I?
I wouldn't mind having a crack at a tourney, so I would prefer to use legal cards only.
Just out of interest, why (besides BLS envoy) are cards like those in my deck banned?
I know I have loads of questions there and I have learnt a lot about the game through playing with my son (although he still hasn't got the hang of discarding 2 monsters when he summons dark magician! But then again, he has 3 in his deck and thinks they will make a 3 headed dark magician bless him!) but know I've still got a way to go B4 being half decent.
Look forward to your replies and thanks again!
Ade.
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Post by The Almighty Smiter on Jun 30, 2005 13:03:02 GMT
Cards like wotbf are low powered but allow you to pull a monster with a defense of 1500 or less, and there alot of really powerfull monsters with a low defense i.e jinso etc. Crads like raigeki etc are just all out mean, you spend ages sumoning etc just for them all to get wiped out in one go with out your opponent even needing to disgaurd a card (not nice). Luster may be banned when then next ban list comes out but that is not deffinate yet.
If you are referring to tributing ritual monsters from your hand, no you cannot do that, you can only tribute monsters from your hand when actually summoning the ritual monster its self or summoning a fusion monster.
If you go to the ude web site (www.ude.com) there is a link to the official yu gi oh page, you can find the ban list on there along with hundreds of card specific answers that you might be looking for.
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Post by The Almighty Smiter on Jun 30, 2005 13:14:45 GMT
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Post by The Almighty Smiter on Jun 30, 2005 13:15:08 GMT
may be you won't, it added it as a link, sweeeeeeet.
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Post by solemnwishes on Jun 30, 2005 13:38:12 GMT
Nice one for that!
Just checked the list and ive been stumped!
I mean, banning change of heart, dark hole, monster reborn and raigeki? It's just not cricket now is it?
For dark hole you have white hole For Raigeki you have anti-Raigeki
As for Monster reborn and Change of heart can somebody give me a good reason why?
Couldn't they create a new monster reborn so you couldn't bring back a ritual monster or fusion monster?
Ade.
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Post by The Almighty Smiter on Jun 30, 2005 14:02:21 GMT
You could use premature burial or call of the haunted, these both allow you to bring a monster back from the grave yard, the only down side beign that if the card is destroyed so is the monster (unless you use call with jinzo as he will negate its effect when he hits the field), or you could use monster reincarnation, you have to disgard one card from your hand to return a monster to your hand, the problem being that you would then have to ritual summon it again, if you use prem or call you must have used the ritual to summon the monster first if not when using them you must use the ritual unless the card states that you don't have to, it can get quite technical.
You can swap COH for Snatch steal, add brain control aswell, both good card, somehting I now use is gift of the maytre, use snatch or brain control, then use gift, tribute your oppnooents monster to raise you monsters attack by an ammount equal to the tributed monsters attack until the end of the turn, in laymans terms, get rid of there monster and make yours super powerull for one turn.
There are hundreds of possibilities, just get a copy of the ban list and see what you can make work.
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Post by Bood on Jun 30, 2005 14:10:58 GMT
the best way forward to get alot of good cards quick is probably to buy the new structure decks, (but not the Dragon one) They have alot of good cards in them, suitable for any decks. And none of the cards are banned. and they available from battlemaster games on ebay ;D
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Post by The Almighty Smiter on Jun 30, 2005 14:12:43 GMT
Bood's got a point, the structure decks do contain some good spell and trap cards, plus they are cheap.
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Post by Bood on Jun 30, 2005 14:19:10 GMT
whys my last post got a warning triangle sign next to it??? Soz its off topic but usually its a piece of paper innit.
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